Living Room

[gabe]

basic*

[Derek]

Good evening, house guests. Christian, congrats on making it to the Final Two. From the very beginning of this game, I knew that you were someone that could do great things in this game, which was one of the reasons that I allied with you in this game. And I am very proud to see you made it to the end. I have questions for you, just so I can clear up some things.

1. If I had survived the week I was eliminated, would you have taken me to the Final Two or would you have taken someone else? Be honest, if you say you wouldn't have, it will not affect the outcome of my decision.

2. What are some moves you made during the game that didn't include the Private Eyes? How did they benefit you and get you to the Final Two?

3. Do you regret anything about your game? If so, what do you regret?

4. What are your thoughts on Gabe's words against me and other house guests in this house?



Now, I move on to Gabe. Gabe, Gabe, Gabe. I am not surprised that you ended up in the Final Two of this game. I cannot speak for the other members of the jury, because maybe they have a different perspective of the way you played the game. But, from my perspective, I feel you did about as much as the fish in the fish tanks do in the real Big Brother house. You swam along, you sat on the sidelines and watched what everyone was doing. You may have won one Veto Competition, but apart from that, you never won a competition. Never won a HOH. And you missed voting several times during the course of this competition. To me, you did nothing significant that makes you worthy, in my eyes, of winning this game.

And that's just from a game perspective. We haven't even gotten to the personal stuff yet. But, now we have. Gabe, I'm sure you read some of the things that I posted after Double Eviction. And obviously you had an opinion. But, maybe you missed the part when I said that this game can be one of two things: it can either be just a game or it can cross a line and become personal. And when you can't differentiate between the game and personal stuff, you've changed Big Brother. Some things definitely changed for me, too, when you posted that obscene, disgusting message about my send-off.

I believe that you called me a "f-ing p****", a "lil b****", and told me that I sucked so bad. Then you proceeded to call me trash, garbage, and a pile of s***. And in your initial post to the jury, you said "Hey, no hard feelings about my speeches."

ARE YOU DELUSIONAL? Seriously, Gabe, you think you can say the things that you said and I'm just going to forget about that. What you said was obscene, disgusting, and quite frankly, things you wouldn't say to anyone in real life. I guarantee, you say words like that to someone in real life, I don't think the reaction of the person is going to be good. And quite frankly, I didn't take it well, at all. You have no idea how much you angered me, hurt me with those words. And maybe you think it's funny, and maybe you just don't care, that you have no feelings, no thought to other individuals.

I'm going to post on here what I posted in the jury house about those comments, the moment I read that. Here's what I wrote:

"Well, Gabe has showed his true colors as a human being. I am very disappointed that he would use such foul language on the forums.

Gabe, I'll say this much. I'm not going to subject myself to calling people names. I'm older, wiser, and obviously more mature than you'll ever be. If you ask me, you have no room to talk. You've done nothing in this game worthy of being called a great player of Big Brother. You will be one of the many players of this game that we will forget, because quite frankly, half the time, we forget you're even in the game.

So, you lasted longer in the game than I did? Big deal. Just cause a person lasts longer doesn't make them greater. You can make it far in this game and still be considered a weak player. And sadly, Gabe, you'll be remembered as someone that talked trash and rode coat tails, even if you do make it to the end. You're not worthy of being remembered for anything good or bad that you ever did, cause you did nothing.

Shame on you, for your words. If you have the nerve to talk to me like that, I'd hate to think how you really act and talk to people in real life. I can imagine that it's ten times worse than this. And I feel bad for you that you want to act like that. Maybe you'll never read this, cause you might make it to the end of the game. But, if you do, just know it's not going to be something that people will congratulate you for. We'll remember it because the winner actually did something smart and took one of the worst players in Big Brother history to the end and assured them the win.

So, joke's on you, Gabe."

I felt that you should read that. You never made it to the jury house, but I felt that this was something you should read.

My thoughts on the matter have not changed and you've done nothing since that moment to change my mind on how I feel about you. Never in all of my years of playing Big Brother and hosting Big Brother have I ever seen such actions by a player in this game WHEN IT WAS UNPROVOKED.

I have never done anything in this game, Gabe, to deserve the words, attitude, and insults that you wrote in that goodbye post. And you know what makes it even worse? You waited until after I was evicted to even make those statements. Those are not the actions of a great player. Those are the actions of someone who is too afraid to confront those that they fear the most in these games. You never talked big until the big players were out of the game, and then you weren't afraid at all to post whatever was on your mind, because you knew that nobody could come back at you then. That's cowardly, that's not the makings of a great player.

You have no idea who I am. Personally, in my life, you don't know who I am. You don't know what I've been through, you don't know how I feel, and I don't know anything about you, either. And that is why I would never EVER say anything so disrespectful. You have no idea the history between Jake, Cody, and I. You have no idea of some of the things that happened before this game and things that happened after Double Eviction. Yes, I was willing to post on some of it, because I had to vent. Some of those actions, I regret. Some of them, I don't. Maybe you had thoughts on what I did, and clearly you had opinions. I'm not a perfect person, my game is not flawless. But, I didn't lower myself to the level that you did when you made that post.

So, yeah, you outlasted me in this game, but that doesn't make you a better player than me or some of the other individuals that have played this game. Quite frankly, I give more credit to Luci and Van, and they were voted out before the jury even started.

So, obviously, you can see where I'm leaning towards, Gabe. And I originally wasn't going to ask you any questions, and I was going to leave you with this rant. So that you can think about your actions, and maybe you wouldn't feel anything, maybe it would infuriate you, maybe it would make you feel remorse and second guess your actions, like I felt in this game several times. But, frankly, even after all you did, I'm still willing to give you a chance to redeem yourself in my eyes and maybe the eyes of others in this game. I believe in God, I am a Christian, and I believe in forgiving. So, here are my final thoughts/questions:

1. Do you care about other peoples' feelings? Can you understand why saying those things would hurt someone?

2. What are some things you did in this game that maybe I don't know about? That would make me reconsider my stance on how you played this game?

3. Are you man enough to apologize for the disgusting things you said about me? And if you are, post an apology. If you're not, tell me why not.

3b. If you decide not to apologize, tell me why you really think I deserved those words and what parts of me made you believe the way you did.

[ilikebryson]

I have some questions. They are all for Christan, as I know everything I need to know about Gabe.

1. You said in your initial speech that you lied plenty in this game, what were some of those lies?

2. You said that I from Derek's eviction onwards, I was the person you were taking to final 2. If it came down to it, would you have taken me or Derek?

3. My final question is piggybacking off of Jakes question. Do you feel like you are a deserving winner if you beat Gabe in what likely will be a clean sweep?

Thank you, good luck, and it's a shame I was at work and wasn't able to compete in part 2 & 3.

[harmonyking1185]

Thank you for the kind words, Derek.

1. As I hinted at in my response to Jake, my plan since week one was to take you to the end. And even though you probably would've beaten me in that situation, I honestly believe I would've followed through with it. My game was centered around you, and I wouldn't have been able to be the sole reason you were evicted. You were the person whose shoulder was there to cry on when I needed it, who risked his easy path to victory with the vets for someone he had never met until this game. I couldn't even cast my vote to evict you at final 6, despite the fact that I knew you were leaving and doing so would've been an easier way to guarantee my loyalty to Bryson. If I couldn't do it then, when it ultimately didn't matter, I never could've done it when it did.

2. Backdooring Van was one of my stronger moves, and while you did eventually come around to my way of thinking, it was not at all what Bryson wanted or what the Privates in general agreed upon. Bryson and your original plan was to put James/Joner on the block that week, not Bullet Club, and once Van/Jake were the final nominees Bryson pushed hard to evict Jake. That move was a move that I decided by myself would benefit me the most, despite my allies arguing differently, and it was overall better for me than either of the other Privates. The other move I made that was obviously not for the Privates was evicting Bryson, which I explained in my answer to Jake. From final 5 on, I was truly a lone wolf, even if I didn't know it at first. Both Joner and Bryson's evictions were decisions I made on my own for my game, disregarding that of Bryson.

3. Gamewise, I don't regret anything. I think in every situation where I was forced to make a choice, I made the right one. It did get me to final two, after all. The only thing I regret is my response to Cody when I evicted him. It was the only time I let my emotions take control of what I said all game, and you saw how it affected me. I stand by my decision to evict Cody. What I don't stand by is the fact that I had an emotional outburst as a result of it. I apologize, Cody, for what I said to you, whether or not you choose to forgive me. I was a complete dick to you, and I recognize that. I'm sorry. And I understand if that conversation is what leads you to cast your vote for Gabe.

4. Trust me, I was just as offended as you were by Gabe's comments. Even before he switched his target from you to me, I was pissed. I believe he was insanely hypocritical and pointlessly rude towards both of us. He called you not a real player, when even this far in the questioning he hasn't actually stated why he should win, just why I should lose. He called you a fucking pussy, when I would define that as someone who won't state their problems with someone to their face, which is exactly what he did. Every negative thing he said about you and later myself was unnecessary, unprovoked, and applied more to him than us. I don't stand by his statements at all.

Thanks for your questions, and I look forward to this game being over so we can start talking again

[harmonyking1185]

Thank you for the questions, Bryson.

1. The biggest lie I told, like I've covered before, was my promise to Jake and Cody to keep them safe during week 4. I never intended to follow through with that promise, as you know, seeing as the Privates even tried to get them up on Derek's hoh week 6 and likely would've done that had Jake not purchased immunity. In addition, Matt made a last ditch effort to send Gabe out that same week, and I told him I would vote Gabe then evicted Matt. I didn't want to be the one to tell Matt he was leaving in that group chat, because my thought process at the time (which I later realized was really flawed but I'm just explaining why I did it then) was that telling Matt he had no hope there would reveal to Joner that I was more socially aware than I looked. My only other lie this game was our Dan/Memphis play at four. As you know, the plan was for me to convince Joner that you/Gabe were a pair we had to split up, so I promised to evict Gabe if I won veto. And the thing is, had I known you would take me to F2 if you won HoH I would have done that, which was the assumption I was working under at the time. Therefore, in the moment it wasn't really a lie. However, it was still a promise I went back on so it deserved a mention.

2. If you, me and Derek were the final 2, and I still won that final HoH, I would have taken Derek. He and I were literally aligned since day 0, while we didn't really align until the formation of the Privates and even then didn't have much of a 1-on-1 alliance. If the three of us had gone all the way there as we were hoping, I would have evicted you.

3. I do feel like I would be a deserving winner if I win this game. I worked my butt off to get where I am today, and regardless of who is sitting next to me I think that fact still stands. Sure, my game wasn't as good as a Dan's, or a Will's, or likely even Derek's season one win, but if I win this game it's because I worked hard for it and that's a perfectly reasonable way to win the game.

Thank you for your questions and being a friend to me this whole game when I needed one

[gabe]

derek aka lil pussy mature bitch, 1.no, no 2. fuck you 3.no,because im no a lil bitch 3b. YOU YOU AND YOU, fuck off upstairs why dont you, you annoying lil twat, lil cute bitch. i would beat the actual mature fuck out of you're pussy ass, nice talking to your jury ass mr. "Veteran" hahaha you blow!!! bye have funn, hey everyone dereks gunna be basic and vote for christian! bye

[Deleted]

Hello guys.

Well done for getting to the Final 2. For my question, I would like to ask you a pretty simple question about the game we have played.

A unique part of these reality games (like BB) is that a group of losers (in this case, the 7 of us) get to vote the winner and that group of losers can use pretty much any reason for their vote. So with my question, I want to turn that dilemma to you.

My question: If you were in our position as a Juror, what would you use as the reason behind your Jury vote? Please answer honestly and in as much detail as possable.

[Rallentando]

I honestly don't think I have a question... Just kind of a statement that I need to say because this whole season has been bothering me. So here I go.

Christian, there was a time I liked you, and respected you. But that all went out the window when you put Jake and I up without telling us, then only came to tell us when Jake confronted you about it. You told us your plan was to backdoor Van, but I had no reason to believe that because I never thought you'd put me up, even with me being a veteran. I thought we had a good friendship brewing... Then you did what you did (not once, but twice, mind you) and it didn't even hurt... I told you the second time, to me it legitimately screamed of trying to get my jury vote, and I hate that. You can't own up to any of these otherwise brilliant game moves. Jake was a much bigger threat than Van. You could have easily gotten him out with the alliance you had. Van stayed over Luci because of me. I made it so Gabe voted for Luci instead of Van. I liked Van, he was a good guy, and I wanted for us to work together. You, Van, Jake, and I. Maybe Derek. Honestly, Derek was a shell of his former self in this game. I'm not saying that to dog on him, but the Derek who played this season is not the Derek I knew. The winner of the very first season of this version of the game. A former runner up (the only former winner to get to the end again... And the only reason he lost was because he won before). Derek this season came in as Mike. He formed this "private eyes" group, and when he could have betrayed you all for a group he knew would do better for him (Jake and I), he swayed from that fearing I wanted him gone. He was right. As much as I lost respect for Derek, if he were sitting against you right now, I'd vote for him the winner of this game. I don't like how he played, but to me he played a very Spartan like game, up until he destroyed it all by voting me out. Because he voted me out, He then Jake followed right behind. You are sitting here at the end because you did something you claim was only one of two possibilities, and you figured getting the threat out would be better. But, that almost didn't happen. Jake was so close to getting immunity, and then he would have won Veto and saved me. I didn't get a chance to fight to stay in this game, and I hate that. I would have at least given you thever chance to fight, no matter how much I wanted you gone. When I was HOH, I wanted to backdoor you. But decided I'd give the HOH to Derek and Jake. I knew I didn't trust Derek, but I trusted Jake. He wanted James gone, and he thought he could trust you. I knew you'd nominate us again, but instead of going with my gut of throwing up Joner and Matt, then backdooring you, going to everyone and making sure you left... I went with targeting James because he had it out for Jake. I don't like playing the "what if" game, but I know had I stuck with my gut you wouldn't be there. My advice to you is to wake up, man. No matter how I vote, you are winning this game. You knew that from the moment you took Gabe.

Gabe... Gabe, Gabe, Gabe. As a Veteran of this game, let me be the first to tell you that you are the saddest, most pathetic person I have EVER seen play this game. And I've witnessed a guy send emails to a girl playing the game, calling her terrible names, then denying it. I've seen a group of people make up lies so someone who rightfully deserved to win the game, lose. I've seen ano asshole take credit for the brilliant game of Jake Frato, knowing full well that the jury hated him any ways. But you, you are the worst of the worst. Originally I chalked this up to you knowing you couldn't win, so you said the things you said to help Bryson and Joner. When Christian took you, I'might not sure if you've continued this because you don't want to win, or if you are just truly a horrible person. Call me whatever you want. I've been called worse. But the things you said about Derek, they were disgusting. My advice to you is to wake the frak up. Smell the frakking roses. Life is too short. Don't be this person you are acting like. You could have made this vote close, hell, you could have won this game... but then you decided to act like you are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You aren't. No one is. If this is the person you truly are, I wonder how Joner and Bryson deal with you. Even if you bottle this inside, or this is all an act... It's disgusting. Up until seeing your little tirade you had my vote because I couldn't personally give Christian my vote. I'm not saying he has it now, though. I am saying you don't have it, because you are worse than Christian in my eyes... And to think I tried defending you to Jake the other day.

[gabe]

guys guys guys chill out, i told you what yall can do, be basic and vote christian, for me life will go on, i have family and friends that love me, and its almost christmas, and i would like to apologize for the things ive said, but i mean this game was boring i wanted to have arguments like the real big brother, you see in the real big brother, ppl start to get tired of ppl, not everyone can get along, i personally dont like derek at ALL but still would have gave him my jury vote! i play the game and made it too a final 2 and yall want to vote christian bc... what? exactly, i understand i didn't have to do anything, but he didn't either, he won some comps in the end but i did throw the comps at the end knowing, chrisian bryson and joner would have taken me for the final 2. notice i didn't come to anyone in this game for an alliance! everyone came too me so i went with, i didn't betray anyone and played a very sketchy game, which was fun too me! all in all i had fun and did what i need to do, and if you vote chritian, hey it is what it is, but i did have a blast playing with yall!!!!!! and i really do apologize, im notvlike this irl, but its the internet and i wanted to try something new, now maybe just maybe i can get the votes turned and win the game!!!

[harmonyking1185]

Matt, thanks for the question. If I were a juror, I would base my vote of off the person who I believed controlled their own game the most and got themselves to the Final two. That doesn't mean they necessarily controlled every vote, just that they were in charge of the choices they made. I would rather give the prize to someone who fought for it than to someone who laid back and watched it happen.

Cody, I'm not going to argue with you and that's because everything you said is true. All I want to say is that, contrary to what you think, evicting you really did hurt. You can choose to believe that or not, but I promised I would tell the truth here and that's the truth.

[joepetz999]

If that is all the questions, jurors may submit their votes at any time.

[joepetz999]

House guests, the votes are in and we have a winner. I will be torturing you by revealing them very slowly throughout the night.


Derek voted for... Christian to be the winner of Big Brother 10.


Bryson voted for... Gabe to be the winner.

We are tied 1-1.

[Deleted]

Dec 23, 2016 1:04:56 GMT joepetz999 said:

House guests, the votes are in and we have a winner. I will be torturing you by revealing them very slowly throughout the night.

How evil of you. 

[joepetz999]

Jake has voted for... Christian to be the winner.

Christian leads 2-1.

[joepetz999]

Joner has cast his vote for... Gabe.

It's all tied up again 2-2.