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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 3:40:03 GMT
Ooof, sucks to be on the block, but hey, that's life. I understand, and I'll work on getting myself off the block. Best of luck to Matt too. Oh well. It is all a part of the game that we signed up for. Good luck to you too Van
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Post by joepetz999 on Nov 14, 2016 20:14:47 GMT
The HOH has nominated Jake and Cody for eviction. The extra veto players will be notified shortly.
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Post by Fratomon on Nov 14, 2016 21:52:15 GMT
Hm...Very interesting.
Not unexpected, but at the same time, highly surprising. Is awakening sleeping giants really the best move this early?
I am someone who always makes the end and but always loses, you figure that'd be something each and everyone of you would want to capitalize upon.
However, I'm not one to give up, so I look forward to the challenge of trying to survive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 8:15:08 GMT
Good luck in the PoV everyone.
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Post by paulfriendship on Nov 15, 2016 21:40:37 GMT
Good luck at Veto guys.
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Post by Brett on Dec 3, 2016 0:25:18 GMT
Derek has purchased Immunity for this double eviction.
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Post by harmonyking1185 on Dec 3, 2016 0:27:13 GMT
This is the nomination ceremony. It's my duty as HoH to nominate two houseguests for eviction.
Joner, you're safe.
Derek, you're safe.
Bryson, you're safe.
Gabe, you're safe.
I have nominated you, Jake and you, Cody. We're getting far enough in the game where this shouldn't come as a surprise. A power duo can dominate if left alone this late, and you two are exactly that. Nothing personal, I think you're both great guys but you're great guys that are threats to my game. Good luck to both of you in veto!
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Post by Fratomon on Dec 3, 2016 0:28:12 GMT
That's a shame, remember Christian, we were going to let you into our group. You shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry you felt the need to.
Good luck to all those in POV.
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Post by Brett on Dec 3, 2016 0:28:52 GMT
Veto Players:
Christian Jake Cody Gabe Joner Bryson
Joe will post Veto at 7:33.
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Post by joepetz999 on Dec 3, 2016 0:29:01 GMT
The veto will be posted in the backyard at 7:35
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Post by Rallentando on Dec 3, 2016 0:29:36 GMT
I have so much to say when I get off work. If I'm still here that is.
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Post by Fratomon on Dec 3, 2016 20:18:08 GMT
Gentlemen, I'd like to welcome you to something I've made into a yearly tradition, since Big Brother 7.
This is the State of Big Brother 10 Address.
Most of you only just met me and haven't had a lot time to get to know me over the past few months, so you probably wont get met about what I have to talk about here. For years now, I've been portrayed by many as a very controversial figure in these games. I've been seen by many as a 'villain' and by fewer, but still a significant amount of people, as a stand up person who has deserved to win these games several times and never did.
I have merely seen myself as me. I have done things that were unnecessary. I'd rub my wins in the faces of people who opposed me, I've blown up on people who have done wrong by me, and I all-in-all have not shown the type of acumen you'd expect out of someone who played this game. I felt it was easier to not lie to anyone, and in turn, not sugarcoat anything. I felt the need to keep it as real as possible. When someone was my target that week, I'd make it abundantly clear they were the target, and I'd be completely upfront and honest with them about it. While most people saw it as me just being a jerk and rubbing things in, I saw it as a warning. I saw it as a show of respect that I would tell someone, essentially, 'you're next', so they could have a chance. So they wouldn't be blindsided and find themselves on the block. I did it so they'd have time to make deals, and be prepared for competitions. So that if they had something on that Wednesday or Thursday night, they could go out of their way to try and free themselves up as soon as they could. I was not trying to hurt people, I was trying to help them out of respect.
What happened last night was the single most disrespectful thing anyone has even done to me. I'm not mad at you Christian, I'm not mad at Bryson or Joner, I'm not mad at any of you. You did what you needed to do and what helped you, and most importantly, you were up front about it. Christian showed enough respect to tell me why he did what he did and what purpose having myself and Spidey on the block served. Derek did not show me, or OUR friend Cody, that same respect. Up until right before that POV started, even though he knew he was immune, he pretended like he was with us. It wasn't until that POV ended and I won that I told him, "all you have to do is promise me you wont vote out Cody", that he showed his true colors. He never responded. He didn't make me a fake promise, he didn't dance around it...he ignored me. He showed me who he truly was. As if I didn't know when in Big Brother Six, he did the same thing to me by deciding to throw me out the same week I ended up wanting to work with him, I figured he'd learned something about me. After being the hosts of the past three games, I assumed Derek had seen enough of Jake Frato to know that Jake Frato is the most loyal and protective person to ever play these games. Instead, he decided to go against his word and his promises, and turn on Cody because he felt like he couldn't trust him. I told Derek all he had to do was come to me about it and I would have worked things out and the three of us could have went far. He didn't respond too well to that, and because of his response to me last night, I'm no longer going to be speaking to him in this game.
I had a very big break down mentally last night because these games have become so important to me, and more so, my relationships, that I didn't know how to handle losing my best friend, and losing just as good a friend, in the same night. I don't know how to feel right now either, the rage boost I normally would get from something like this happening...just isn't there. I feel immediately broken because I've never faced such a back stab on this level. I've painted myself as an intimidating hard ass to shield away what I truly can be: an emotional wreck. Derek has literally destroyed the entire personality I've spent years building in these games with one decision.
Now, I don't feel like some anti-hero anymore. I'm not ready to give up, no matter how much I was hurt last night. I know none of you want to see me give up either, and that's what I respect about this field of players so much. Most of you are new but you've worked very hard to get to this point and have done it well. It's time I step up to become the hero I always knew I could be. Derek might have shown me who he really is last night with his decision, but it also helped me see who I really am, and I'm looking forward to these next few weeks. Good luck, guys.
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Post by gabe on Dec 3, 2016 20:56:16 GMT
i want to expose someone right now. maybe 2 people
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Post by gabe on Dec 3, 2016 20:56:23 GMT
i have secrets
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Post by Derek on Dec 3, 2016 23:01:56 GMT
Well, how do I even respond to that?
Well, bottom line is, last night I played the game. I made a decision that I felt was best for me and Jake doesn't like the decision that I have made. And there's nothing I can do about that to change it. But, I'm not sorry for my decision. People in this house know where I stand and they know how I feel.
Fact is, you all know that Jake and I have a history together. We've played Big Brother before, we've talked on Facebook a lot about this game. I've hosted three seasons of this game and Jake has been a part of all of it.
Jake, I'm sorry that you took the decision that I made so personally. That's the only thing I'm sorry for, and I'll say that to the house. Nobody should ever have to apologize for the way that they play this game. NOBODY. If feelings get hurt, it's unfortunate. And I'm not going to say that I don't have feelings about this game. This game always lets me know why I could never play Survivor or Big Brother in real life, because I care too much about people.
I'm not a perfect human being, not by a long shot. Fact is, Jake knows all of my insecurities in life. He knows how much I struggle with confidence, dating, and other challenges in my real life. He knows about the things I've lost. And if he really knew me, he would know how much I actually like him as a person and how much I care for his well-being. But, none of that really matters, I guess.
It's a shame that the game has to truly get that personal for Jake. And when it gets personal, the only thing it does is hurt people. Jake's comments above and the comments he made to me last night were just as hurtful. This game doesn't have to be this way, but Jake uses it as a strategy. He posts the messages, he breaks people down, he hurts peoples' feelings, he says things about you that he knows will hurt you, and then he takes advantage of that and wins competitions and gets to the end. So, Jake already has the advantage over me. He knows my weaknesses, he knows how to use them, and he will.
Jake, your tormenting of me is only going to break me down. Your actions go beyond the game. This game can stay a game. We can play it, we can take our wins, we can take our losses, and at the end of the day, we can understand and we can move on with life. The only thing I did by voting out Cody was a game decision, no different than what anyone else did last night. We made a game decision. It wasn't because we hated Cody, it wasn't because we hated Jake. People made those decisions because of the game.
But, Jake, your words, your actions, the way you say that you will "never forgive me", talking about me like I'm some devil, a terrible person. The fact that you blocked me on Facebook, that you just decide you won't talk to me period just because of one decision. That goes beyond this game, Jake. We still have lives that we have to live outside of here. I can keep my game and my personal life separate, but not when my personal stuff is pulled into the game.
Jake, maybe my decision in the game might mean you can't trust me in the game. But, it doesn't mean you can't trust me in real life. And the fact that you want to extend all of this so much out into the real world hurts more than I ever could have imagined. So, go ahead and break me down, Jake. I'll go cry in the fridge at work, because I've lost something else in life. It's bad enough I've lost the things I already have. It's bad enough you do this to me on what would have been my Grandpa's 82nd birthday. One of the people I loved more than anything and he was taken from me. And his birthdays are still hard to get through. And you have to come here and give one of your speeches to bully and torment me even more than I'm already being tormented on this day? It's bad enough that every single woman I've asked out for the last ten years have rejected me, for whatever reason. Told me I'm not good enough. It's bad enough I've lost friends because I'm weak. Because they can't put up with my sadness, my depression, my anxiety, or any other issue in my life.
So, go ahead Jake. If it gives you peace of mind, if it makes you feel better in life, go ahead. Break me down. Call me names, throw my name around this game like it's garbage. Tell everyone what a terrible person I truly am. And let it work its way into my real life. Let me lose focus while trying to look for a job. Let me lay in my bed all day, looking at a blank wall and remembering every other bad thing that's ever happened in my life. Force me to remember every friend I've lost in life, all of the opportunities I've lost out on. All of my regrets. And just throw more onto it, Jake. Go ahead. All because I played the game, all because I made one decision and you just take it so personally in your heart, that you can't help but break me down in revenge.
The only thing you have done here, Jake, is made me realize I will never find peace in my life. That this is another event in my life that makes me realize the future holds nothing for me. That my weaknesses will break me down rather than make me fight. And if you want to do this Jake, fine. If you want to be another factor that's responsible for my downfall not only in this game, but in my real life, then that's your choice. You don't realize how much you hurt people just as much with your antics as maybe people have hurt you with their game decisions. But, one thing I can at least say is that my decision was strictly game play. It wasn't personal. If you had to come after me in the game, then at least I could understand that. That's the game: if someone is trying to get you out, you have to strike first. And I was not going to risk giving you or Cody the chance to do that yourselves.
But, your actions have been strictly personal. That's what you never understand about this game, Jake. Making it personal is what makes it no longer a game. It makes it life. And there are consequences for every decision we make in life. There are consequences to every action we take in this game, but this game doesn't have to affect our real life. But, once we cross that threshold, Big Brother becomes something different, something ugly, something that it shouldn't have to be.
Jake, if you make it personal like this again, I believe that the same fate will await you if you make it to the Final Two again. You can't make this game personal and not expect people to react personally. A game is a game. Changing the game makes it life. And everything that happens in life is personal to each of us. You can't treat people like this and expect them to separate the game and personal life.
This game will end. We should be able to move on with our lives and consider it an experience and not let it affect us. But, once you cross the line, it changes things. And what you've done, Jake, is crossed the line. And the only thing that it will lead to is pain, sadness, anger, bitterness, and emptiness. And it is worse when your actions cause other people to feel that way.
So, Jake, if I hurt your feelings, I am truly sorry about that. But, that's it. I wish you wouldn't feel and think the way you do about this game, but you do. But, don't think your actions stop on the forums. They don't. They carry into life and they hurt others. And that includes me. I'll make one final plea to you, Jake. Don't let this game get personal. Don't let it hurt you as a person. Don't let it cause you to hurt others in the process. You hurt people last season, you hurt people in Big Brother 8, you hurt people in Big Brother 7. Don't let it continue into this season. Play the game, keep it the game, and don't let it carry over into your life, and don't let it rub off on others so much that it hurts them.
At this point, I'm a broken individual. Jake might feel nothing, but all I feel over this conduct is pain and sadness over losing a friend in real life. It doesn't have to be this way. I don't want it to be this way. And I'm tired of the loss.
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